The Foolish Optimist with Amy McDonald
I’m Amy McDonald, and I am on the hunt for the next generation of leaders, both in the ballot boxes and the teams behind them. On The Foolish Optimist, you’ll find interviews with candidates running for office in the 2025 and 2026 elections and beyond. But we also speak with civilians working behind the scenes to make elections go. You’ll find tidbits on how to communicate effectively, how neuroscience fits into campaigns, and what you can do with your current skills to help get quality candidates elected.
Episodes

Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Advocating for Change in West Virginia: A Conversation with Kat Weiland
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Host Amy McDonald welcomes Kat Weiland, a candidate running for the West Virginia House of Delegates, District 17, on The Foolish Optimist Podcast. Weiland, a teacher, mother, and native Appalachian, discusses her political stances, including being pro-union, pro-public education, and anti-school voucher programs. The conversation touches on a variety of issues including public education, state insurance, and the struggles of rural infrastructure in West Virginia. Weiland shares her personal motivations, rooted in her father's life experiences and her own journey back to her hometown. The episode delves into her campaign goals, the need for bipartisan solutions on issues like road maintenance and childcare, and the economic struggles faced by many in the state. Weiland also discusses the importance of vocational training and the unique cultural aspects of West Virginia.
00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement
01:58 Why Kat is Running for Office
02:29 West Virginia's Political Landscape
03:27 Challenges in Education and Insurance
09:13 Roads and Infrastructure Issues
13:55 Public Education and Voucher Programs
17:47 Personal Stories and Motivations
19:29 Minimum Wage and Economic Challenges
22:29 The Impact of Travel on Brain Chemistry
22:54 Scholarship Fund and Application Fees
24:22 Teaching Journey from West Virginia to Texas
26:25 Vocational Training and Popular Trades
31:03 The Beauty and Culture of West Virginia
32:24 Rapid Fire Questions

Wednesday Feb 04, 2026
Wednesday Feb 04, 2026
The Road to Indiana's Secretary of State: A Discussion with Blythe Potter
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Host Amy McDonald welcomes Blythe Potter to The Foolish Optimist podcast to discuss her candidacy for Indiana Secretary of State in 2026. Blythe is an Army Military Corps veteran, a small business owner, and a community organizer. The conversation covers the importance of civic engagement, voter turnout issues in Indiana, and the need for transparent and accessible election information. Blythe shares her vision for making the Secretary of State role more service-oriented and streamlined, highlighting her plans to improve voter turnout, facilitate more accessible voting processes, and keep citizens informed and engaged. The episode also touches on the importance of diversity in political representation and the various challenges faced by the Democratic Party. Additionally, they discuss Blythe’s military background and how it influenced her political activism and candidacy. The podcast emphasizes the potential for grassroots efforts to bring about significant change in Indiana's political landscape.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:44 Guest Introduction: Blythe Potter
01:32 Blythe Potter's Campaign and Vision
02:27 Challenges in Indiana's Voting System
04:19 Diversity in Politics
06:33 Role of Secretary of State in Indiana
11:18 Voter Purging Issues
13:58 Political Climate and Activism
15:23 Millennials and Political Engagement
20:26 Economic Challenges and Layoffs
21:54 Debating Political Arguments
22:25 The Importance of Civic Discourse
25:03 Challenges in Voter Engagement
31:28 Barriers to Voting
37:06 The Role of Activism
40:41 Personal Insights and Reflections
43:24 Conclusion and Contact Information

Wednesday Jan 28, 2026
Wednesday Jan 28, 2026
Finding New Leaders and Standing Your Ground: A Conversation with Ashley Bell
Host Amy McDonald of The Foolish Optimist podcast sits down with Ashley Bell, a candidate for the United States House of Representatives in North Carolina's 10th Congressional District. The discussion covers Bell's background as a public school teacher, physician's associate, and educator, as well as her commitment to expanding healthcare access, strengthening public education, and protecting reproductive freedom. Bell shares her views on uncompromising stances in politics, especially regarding healthcare, and the political shift she experienced alongside her career in healthcare. They also discuss the unique challenges faced by North Carolina's 10th District, voter engagement strategies, and the impact of gerrymandering and voter suppression. The episode concludes with Bell's thoughts on the blue wave in upcoming elections and highlights her campaign's focus on addressing affordability and healthcare issues.
00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks
00:35 Welcome to the Foolish Optimist Podcast
00:52 Introducing Ashley Bell
03:09 Challenges in North Carolina Healthcare
04:24 Medicare for All Discussion
08:21 Personal Stories and Healthcare System Critique
20:45 North Carolina's 10th District Overview
23:59 Upcoming Primary and Election Details
24:09 Unexpected Primary Competition
24:27 The Only Woman in the Race
45:06 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

Monday Jan 26, 2026
Monday Jan 26, 2026
Grassroots Politics and Anti-War Advocacy with Dr. Bryan Maxwell
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Host Amy McDonald welcomes Dr. Bryan Maxwell, an anti-war candidate running for the US Senate in Illinois, on The Foolish Optimist podcast. Bryan shares his views on the intersection of climate change and foreign policy, highlighting the need to reduce global militarism for meaningful environmental action. They discuss Bryan's background as an environmental engineer and community organizer, touching on his strong stance on Medicare for all and taxing the rich. The pair also engage in a heartfelt conversation about Bryan's dedication to his dog and the importance of grassroots political movements. Bryan emphasizes the need to get money out of politics, end congressional stock trading, and address public health crises like housing and affordability, wrapping up with a call for public support for his campaign.
00:00 Bryan Maxwell
00:19 Introduction and Host Welcome
00:36 Guest Introduction: Dr. Bryan Maxwell
01:22 Bryan's Eventful Week and Dog Story
03:08 Discussing Bryan's Senate Run and Anti-War Stance
04:39 Climate Change and Foreign Policy
08:07 Money in Politics and Grassroots Campaigns
14:10 US Foreign Policy and War Machine
21:49 Sanctions and Their Impact
24:48 Cultural Differences and Community Values
25:52 Surprising Differences in Money Transfer Systems
26:34 Challenges of Running a Grassroots Campaign
27:54 Connecting with Student Groups and Farmers
28:53 Sustainable Agriculture and Economic Stability
30:53 Addressing Affordability Issues in Illinois
32:19 Proposals for Economic Relief
39:09 Confronting Political Challenges
43:13 Rapid Fire Questions
47:59 Closing Remarks and Campaign Information

Wednesday Jan 21, 2026
Wednesday Jan 21, 2026
Dr. Candice Duvieihl and Her Campaign for Alabama's 5th Congressional District
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Host Amy McDonald welcomes Dr. Candice Duvieihl to the Foolish Optimist Podcast to discuss her campaign for the US House of Representatives Democratic Primary in Alabama's 5th Congressional District. Dr. Duvieihl shares her motivations rooted in her working-class background and highlights her qualifications as a government accounting expert and policy analyst. The conversation covers a wide range of topics including the importance of public education, community safety, affordable housing, and the critical need for infrastructure improvements. Dr. Duvieihl also discusses the economic challenges faced by the working class, the unethical practices of corporations, and the necessity for consumer protections. Throughout the episode, the focus remains on empowering every day Alabamians over corporate interests, and the need for authentic, accountable leadership in government.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Welcome
00:34 Introducing Dr. Candice: A Champion for Working Families
02:09 Candice's Background and Motivation for Running
03:06 The Importance of Government and Public Administration
05:21 Challenges and Privatization in Public Services
12:26 Education and Trade Skills: Investing in the Future
19:14 Political Authenticity and Voter Engagement
26:54 Government Accountability and Corporate Influence
30:21 Corporate Impact on Local Infrastructure
31:16 The Importance of Public Administration
31:53 Challenges with Housing Developments
32:30 Breaking the Cycle of Shortsighted Planning
33:50 Affordable Housing and Commuting Issues
34:51 Traffic and Public Transit Concerns
36:32 Alabama's Public Transportation Fund
37:23 Accountability in Government Spending
37:57 The Alabama Prison System Crisis
39:15 Historical Context of Prisons in the South
41:41 Personal Anecdotes and Road Trips
45:09 Affordability Crisis and Consumer Protections
51:38 Small Business and Government Contracts
54:36 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Wednesday Jan 14, 2026
Wednesday Jan 14, 2026
Reviving the American Dream: A Conversation with Senate Candidate Hallie Shoffner
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Host Amy McDonald welcomes Hallie Shoffner, a sixth-generation Arkansan farmer running for the US Senate in Arkansas, to the Foolish Optimist podcast. Hallie Shoffner discusses her background, from growing up on her family's farm to pursuing higher education and eventually returning home to manage the farm. She shares her frustrations with the current political and economic systems that led her to run for office. Hallie Shoffner and Amy McDonald discuss a variety of issues including the farm crisis, healthcare, social services, the importance of unions, and the impact of corporate policies on everyday Americans. Hallie Shoffner emphasizes the need for systemic change and the potential for Arkansas to lead in food security and economic reform.
00:21 Welcome to the Foolish Optimist Podcast
00:39 Introducing Hallie Shoffner: A Sixth Generation Arkansan Farmer
02:57 Hallie's Journey: From Farm to Senate Run
05:28 The Harsh Realities of Farming in Arkansas
07:47 The Economic Crisis and Its Impact on Arkansan Families
12:09 The Need for Policy Change and Investment in Food Security
15:16 The Disconnect Between Politicians and Real People
28:49 The Disconnect in Congress
29:33 Need for New Legislation
31:50 Independent Voters in Arkansas
33:17 Strategies to Increase Voter Turnout
35:49 Challenges Faced by Gen Z
37:35 The Impact of Social Media and Misinformation
38:49 Digital Bill of Rights
40:03 Union Support and Workers' Rights
46:19 Issues with Voucher Programs
48:16 Support for First Responders and Teachers
50:30 Rapid Fire Questions

Monday Jan 12, 2026
Monday Jan 12, 2026
The Foolish Optimist Podcast: Transforming Alabama's 28th District with Robert Hunter
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Host Amy McDonald introduces Robert Louis Hunter, a community organizer running for the Alabama State House District 28. Hunter discusses his vision for addressing economic and social issues in his community, emphasizing the need for better representation and policies that support working-class individuals. He highlights his community involvement, including his role in running the Gadsden free store and organizing Gadsden Pride events. Hunter outlines specific legislative goals such as rent stabilization, Medicaid expansion, and improving environmental protections. He also shares his plans for engaging with potential constituents through door-knocking and community events. Hunter expresses his commitment to fostering a long-term economic development plan for his district and ensuring that all community members, including those marginalized, have access to necessary resources. The conversation also touches on the challenges within the Alabama Democratic Party and Hunter's aspirations for building a more inclusive and functional party structure.
00:00 Introduction and Economic Outlook
00:28 Welcome to the Foolish Optimist Podcast
00:47 Meet Robert Louis Hunter
01:43 Why Robert is Running for Office
03:54 Community Organizing and Local Impact
07:08 Gadsden Free Store and Pride Events
11:31 Challenges and Future Plans
14:51 Economic Development and Infrastructure
23:56 Campaign Strategy and Community Engagement
31:16 Organizing Precinct Captains and House Parties
32:16 Challenges Facing Alabama Democrats
33:24 Internal Issues within the State Party
34:42 Generational Change and Leadership
35:23 Infighting and State Party Dynamics
37:10 National Party Intervention
38:55 Financial and Organizational Challenges
39:52 Campaign Strategy and Community Engagement
52:00 Rapid Fire Questions and Campaign Information
57:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
The Voice of Youth: Leila Staton on Running for Office in Iowa
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In this episode of the Foolish Optimist Podcast, the host welcomes Leila Staton, a 22-year-old progressive Democrat running for Iowa House District 54. Leila discusses her motivations for running, driven by anger at the current political system and the unmet needs in her community. She highlights key issues such as women's health, child safety, and the lack of challenge to long-standing Republican incumbents. Leila emphasizes the need for policies that truly reflect the concerns and future of young people. The conversation also covers the decline in public school quality, the detrimental effects of private school voucher programs, challenges in the healthcare system, and the importance of local food programs. The episode ends on a note of optimism and the importance of giving young candidates a platform to enact change.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Welcome
00:41 Meet Leila Staton: Young Progressive Candidate
01:31 Leila's Motivation and Political Landscape
05:58 Challenges in Women's Health in Iowa
11:04 Addressing Child Safety and School Issues
11:58 Gun Control and Political Accountability
24:38 The Male Loneliness Epidemic and Policy Failures
26:53 Mental Health and Gun Control
28:31 Police Brutality and Overfunding
31:43 Legalizing Marijuana and Economic Benefits
33:49 Education and Healthcare Challenges
34:54 Affordable Housing Initiatives
39:07 Farming and Environmental Impact
48:37 Taxing the Wealthy and Economic Solutions
50:27 Rapid Fire Questions and Closing Remarks

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
The Foolish Optimist Podcast: Kyah Creekmore on Universal Healthcare and Policy Reform
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In this episode of The Foolish Optimist Podcast, hosted by Amy McDonald, guest Kyah Creekmore discusses his campaign for North Carolina's 5th Congressional District in the 2026 election. At just 24 years old, Kyah is a Generation Z organizer and policy advocate. He shares his personal story of growing up in a challenging environment and his vision for a future that includes universal healthcare, fully funded schools with six-figure teacher salaries, and the elimination of corruption in Washington, D.C. Amy and Kyah delve into key societal issues like healthcare access, economic inequality, and the importance of inclusive policies. Tune in for a deep dive into the challenges and aspirations of America's younger generation of leaders.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Welcome
00:33 Meet Kyah Creekmore: Gen Z Candidate
01:34 Kyah's Personal Story and Motivation
01:52 Challenges of Growing Up in Poverty
02:59 Systemic Issues and Policy Failures
04:19 The Struggles of Modern Workers
12:36 District 5: North Carolina's Political Landscape
16:18 Kyah's Vision for America
18:46 Healthcare Reform and Economic Justice
22:34 Historical Context and Social Justice
30:41 Economic Impact of Health Crises
31:58 Critique of Obama's Policies
35:51 North Carolina's Fifth District Issues
37:30 Public Transit and Infrastructure Challenges
38:44 Healthcare and Food Deserts
41:30 Legal Representation and Tenant Rights
46:45 The Power of Words and Democracy
50:53 Rapid Fire Questions
58:07 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
Taking Back Power: Meet Alex Hawkins, Candidate for Michigan House District 55
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In this episode of the Foolish Optimist Podcast, host Amy McDonald talks to Alex Hawkins, a candidate running for state representative in Michigan's House District 55. Alex shares his inspiring journey from a challenging upbringing to a life dedicated to service as a US Army veteran, bomb tech, reserve sheriff's deputy, and EOD officer in the Michigan National Guard. The discussion dives into his reasons for running, focusing on affordability issues, healthcare, public education, veterans' support, and the significance of local unions. Tune in to hear Alex’s plans for bringing power back to regular working people and how he aims to create positive change in his community.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Opening
00:32 Meet Alex Hawkins: A Life of Service
02:17 Why Alex is Running for State Representative
03:21 Discussing Michigan's Issues and Alex's Campaign Goals
04:11 A Closer Look at Rochester and Rochester Hills
06:05 Challenges in Michigan's State House
11:46 The Importance of Public Education
15:54 Building Coalitions and Bipartisanship
21:13 Gun Ownership and Legislation
28:03 Supporting Veterans at the State Level
30:05 Service Members' Benefits and TRICARE
31:07 Michigan's New Fighter Jets and Job Creation
31:30 Veterans' Benefits and Retention in Michigan
34:04 The Importance of Unions and Workers' Rights
40:29 Challenges of Affordability in Michigan
44:10 Campaigning and Political Strategy
54:39 Rapid Fire Questions and Closing Remarks





